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9/11 (Edger/Volz): The Oklahoma City-Hamburg connectionposted by ewing2001 on Monday August 25, @05:20PM![]() from the GFP dept.
Edger/Volz: The Oklahoma City-Hamburg connection
Current Results about possible connections between Thomas Volz (CIA) and
David Edger (ex-CIA) By Ewing2001, August 26th 2003
Photo: University of Oklahoma, Marienstrasse 54, Hamburg
Recently GFP found out, that not only David Boren (Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence In a bizarre twist, Edger arrived at almost the same time in Oklahoma City, when Moussaoui got arrested, who lived some minutes away.
Coincidence? Let's recap the facts:
Due to Tami Watson (normantranscript.com ,February 2002) and Michael Philip Wright (Norman, Oklahoma),
author of The Moussaoui-Tenet-Boren Connection, we learned about the original story of CIA agent David Edger.
Edger "arrived on the OU campus in August 2001 to begin his duties as a visiting professor in the political science department.
Up until that month he had responsibility for surveillance of the Al Qaeda cell in Germany, whose membership included Ramzi bin Al-Shibh, paymaster for the Al Qaeda organization, and Mohammed Atta, a hijacker on one of the airliners which crashed into the World Trade Center (WTC).
Edger was described by The Norman Transcript as an "expert in intelligence collection, counterintelligence investigations, and political action" . The newspaper also reports that he has directed espionage and counter-espionage activities.
Edger was in Chile in 1973 when the CIA was overthrowing the Allende government.
Was Edgers german "surveillance" connection Thomas Volz?
Photo: Wadih-el-Hage
Volz tried to hire one of Mohammad Atta's contacts, Marmoun Darkanzali, since at least December 1999. As two german TV-authors Oliver Schröm and Dirk Laabs recently described for german magazine DER STERN and NDR/ARD TV:
"...wenn sich Volz erst einmal etwas in den Kopf gesetzt hat, verfolgt er dieses Ziel unerbittlich. Diesmal heißt es, Mamoun Darkazanli "umzudrehen"..."
This showed, that Volz desperately tried to hire Darkanzali as an Informant for the CIA. Langley must have known about it.
Is there a possible connection between Thomas Volz and David Edger?
Jewish Bulletin news from March 30, 2001 contained some interesting bio about Volz:
In this article, we learn from former Likud-politician Andrzej Kielczynski aka Joseph Barak, that he once "signed a contract with a CIA agent in Tel Aviv in 1985 and passed on data about Israeli intelligence operatives in the United States and elsewhere"
including Jonathan Pollard (Photo below).
Now Kielczynski continued with his bizarre story:
"The CIA people at the American Embassy followed my activity for several years and decided I could supply the data they needed," Kielczynski said. "They courted me for a while, then made the offer. I signed the contract in Frankfurt, Germany, with a CIA man from the embassy, Thomas Volz." The Israel Foreign Ministry's diplomatic list for 1984-85 mentions Volz as an undersecretary at the U.S. Embassy.
Dead end for now. Nothing more is available about Volz' job in 1984.
Same to the activities of David Edger in the 90s.
However, since Sep11th, he sometimes appeared in the media.
"...Cyber terrorism can be done. Edger said a study in 1997 proved hackers could enter computer systems. Half of the targets attacked by hackers did not know they had been attacked. Cyber terrorists could, in theory, use the computer to control America’s air traffic control system or shut down the 911 system of Washington, D.C. ..."
Edger wasn't prophetic and also didn't lie. He spoke about an NSA-simulation of 1997.
Due to ex-CIA Ralph McGehee's CIA Database, Edger had also connections with former deputy director for clandestine operations, David Cohen., who joined the New York Police Department in 2002.
In 1995, Edger was appointed by Cohen as "associate deputy directors of ops",
while Leo Hazelwood, former CIA executive director, became Deputy Director for administration.
More interestingly, Dr.Ruth David, at that time director of Advanced Info
Technology at Sandia National Laboratory, became Deputy Director for Science
and Technology.
Ruth David was mainly responsible for the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, years before Sep11th, with the help of ANSER. (See also BENS-CIA-911-Homeland Security Connection and Tracking all Hijackers)
Ruth David was also in contact with another ex-CIA Officer, Linda Millis, who started to work for Business Executives for National Security (BENS) in February 2001. Same strategy: Stabilizing the Homeland Security and privatising the Pentagon:
In April 2002, David and Millis met at a "New Threats Policy Action Group Planning Meeting", together with Chris Kelly and Steve Trevino from Booz Allen Hamilton, ex-CIA James Woolsey's consulting company.
Ruth David is a hardliner for the intelligence.
When she was appointed as Deputy Director for Science
and Technology, at the same time, Paul Redmond was appointed for ci, Christine Wiley for personnel issues.
Already in November 1999, Dr. David initiated ANSER's Homeland Defense Strategic Thrust "to address the growing national concern of multi-dimensional, asymmetric threats from rogue nations, sub-state terrorist groups, and domestic terrorists. In May 2001, the ANSER Institute of Homeland Security was established to enhance public awareness and education and contribute to the dialog on a national, state, and local level."
The Homeland Security worked already perfect before September 11th.
Meanwhile, in Summer 2002, we learned, that her former colleague Paul Redmond has resigned, while "in the middle of his secret investigation into how Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden allegedly obtained US computer software", obviously this was PROMIS.
But back to Edger.
We still don't know much about his german terror investigation in August 2001 and there are still no concrete ties to Thomas Volz. Both won't speak.
Edger's other contacts however, point on more Sep11th ties:
On August 25th, 2003 Edger was on a panel discussion at the University of Oklahoma together with Admiral William Crowe (who co-founded the Anthrax-vaccine company Bioport with ex-Porton Down Fuad Al-Hibri),
Kenneth Levit, former legal counsel for the CIA and now head of OU-Tulsa, and Edwin Corr, who was the U.S. ambassador to El Salvador during that country's fight against leftist terrorists in the 1980s.
In 2002, Edger supported a "Political Science Shop Talk", sponsored by "Pi Sigma Alpha, the talks were led by Ambassador Edward J. Perkins, executive director of the International Programs Center at OU who is also a former U.S. Representative to the United Nations and the UN Security Council".
Perkins is member of the Council on Foreign Relations and edited books include Preparing America's Foreign Policy for the 21st Century, with David L. Boren.
What about the other CIA specialists, who received prior warnings and even observed the famous "malysia meeting"?
One of them was Cofer Black, who resigned, unexplained, at the CIA in May 2002.
Black is meanwhile Co-ordinator for Counter-Terrorism, US Department of State.
Both spoke at the first 9/11 hearings in 2002:
Black confirmed, that in January 2001, he was in contact with "special agents from the FBI's New York field office", who brought a "Kuala surveillance photo".
But in 2003's current 9/11 commission, noone talks about the german intelligence surveillance.
The US Congress and U.S. Media still ignore the facts about "Operation Zartheit" by german intelligence BfV, who obtained telephone numbers of all contacts of the "Hamburg Cell" and forwarded them to the CIA and CTC-long time before 9/11.
There is no word about "more than 8,400 telephone calls to 1,400 different numbers", which were made by the German Intelligence "in three years from the Hamburg apartment Binalshibh", as reported by LA Times in January 2003.
8000 phone calls and none of them was interesting for the CIA?
Many other questions about the german 9/11-connection are still unanswered.
Is it true, that a german police investigation into german-syrian company Tatex Trading GmbH was blocked after Sep11th, because of their ties with syrian intelligence and former director Mohammed Madschid Said?
Photo: Al Quds Mosque in Hamburg, including Moroccan Abdelghani Mzoudi (third from L standing upright), Moroccan Mounir El Motassadeq (fifth from L standing upright), lately sentenced in Hamburg, Ramzi Binalshibh (seventh from L standing upright), September 11 coordinator and arrested in Pakistan September 11, 2002, September 11, 2001 death-pilot Mohammed Atta (second from R sitting), Mohammed Raji (third from R, with Atta putting his hands on his shoulders)
Other questions:
Why did german police arrest Mohammed Raji right after Sep11th and let him go again?
What happened with another suspect, Said Bahaji, also in connection with the Hamburg Cell?
Photo: Abdelghani Mzoudi
Why does the CIA still not allow Zacarias Moussaoui or even german 9/11-lawyers of the second german 9/11 trial (Abdelghani Mzoudi, who signed Atta's last will) to speak with Ramzi Binalshib, who could tell a lot about the Hamburg Cell?
What happened with the results of the Netherland Secret Service, who found out, that
"Hamburg cell" member, Mounir el-Motassadeq, "received cash from an Eindhoven mosque that had been diverted from funds provided by "Saudi financiers"?
It's not sure, if CIA officer Volz still works in Hamburg.
He could give some answers on all these questions, same to his "contacts" in Langley.
And Edger?
In May 2003, Edger met George Tenet, who was this year's commencement speaker at OU, as announced by President David L. Boren in April.
Edger's comments:
Finally there is another german Edger-connection, which could point on Thomas Volz.
Due to Oklahoma University News (October 2001), "Mr. Edger was stationed at the U. S. Embassy in Berlin as Minister-Counselor for Coordination, where he directed both military and civilian U. S. intelligence programs in Germany".
Volz worked at the U.S Embassy between 1984-85 and at the U.S.Consulate in Hamburg in 1999, if all reports are true.
He still might have some contacts.
Did Edger and Volz met in Berlin?
To be continued... (thx to Michael Philip Wright and "V.")
"...you write that Edger arrived in Oklahoma City. He may have
arrived at Will Rogers Airport in Oklahoma City, but his final destination was Norman, home of OU. It is about 20 miles south...
(Ed: Thanks for this correction. As a reminder for everyone, this is also the same city, where Moussaoui lived.)
"...the link to the Norman Transcript came up with today's edition, not the one in February 2002... (Ed: That's right. I wasn't able to find the original link. It would be helpful to replace it ASAP)
"...You write that Edger is still at OU. I'm not sure that is true. The
OU political science newsletter, to which you provide a link, says that
he was here on a two-year assignment.
Since he arrived in August 2001, the two years is complete. Maybe he
got an extension..."
"...You describe (Edger) as "ex-CIA." Are you sure about this?
It has been my impression that he is still a CIA agent and was on a
leave of absence to be a visiting professor at OU..."
(Ed: I'm not sure about it. It would make sense, that he's still on the payroll. Same to Boren. Though he was never officially an employee of the CIA, (some say this is open to question, i.e. at davidboren.org), Boren nevertheless is part of the intelligence community because he is the chair of the Select Committee on Intelligence )
"...My latest work on 9/11 matters is now at this "blog" journal.
Investigators Who Owe Favors to Boren
The 900-page Joint Select Committee on Intelligence's report on the 9/11 attacks were declassified and made available to the public in July 2003. Senator Carl Levin of Michigan of Michigan is on the Intelligence Committee. The website opensecrets.org discloses that Boren made a $1000 contribution to him in August 2002. [Enter the name Boren in the individual donor search for 2002.] It should also be borne in mind that Boren was the Chairman of this Senate committee until 1994.
Boren is also on the board of directors of American Airlines. Former Illinois Governor Jim Thompson is a member of the independent 9/11 commision. I am awating documentation on this, but my preliminary information is that Thompson is a paid lobbyist for American Airlines, and that his law firm has clients in Saudi Arabia and a branch office there.
CIA Agent Edger Admits to Failure
Evidence suggests that Edger reinforced Boren and Tenet in the belief that any terrorist activities involving the seizing of aircraft would be conducted with the purpose of taking hostages for negotiation. In February 2002 he was hosted for a speaking engagement by the Norman public library. The Norman Transcript reported: [4]
He said although officers knew members of the cell and some of what they were doing, they had no idea that they would meet in London and go to different parts of the U.S., where they would learn to fly planes to crash into the World Trade Center.
Ongoing Research by Michael P Wright -Saturday, August 30
Last week I
visited the OU political science department and asked about Edger. The
secretaries said his visiting professor appointment had expired and he
has retired from the CIA. They also said he is from Oklahoma and has a
master's degree from OU. The Tulsa World confirms that he is from
Oklahoma. Edger is quoted in this article as expressing his deep interest
in infiltration and covert action.
This online newsletter from the OU political science department
confirms that Boren arranged for his appointment there. He arrived at OU in
August of 2001.
I obtained his email address from the political science department. I
am going to forward to you my entire correspondence with Edger, and you
can inform your readers about it. I find it most interesting that he
doesn't want to answer my questions:
Dear Mr. Edger:
I am doing some research into pre-9/11 survellance over Al Qaeda
activities by the U.S. intelligence community. Perhaps you can answer some
questions for me.
According to the LA Weekly, before his trip to Minneapolis Zacarias
Moussaoui had a meeting with Mohammad Atta, ringleader of the 9/11 plot,
in an Oklahoma City motel. Also present was a man who appeared to be
Marwin Al-Shehhi, who helped crash a jetliner into the south tower of the
WTC.
laweekly.com/ink/02/36/news-crogan.php
The Norman Transcript reported that your responsibility was
surveillance over the Hamburg cell, of which Atta was a member. Did you know
about this meeting? The FBI knew about it but apparently did not treat it
as significant. Why not?
Additionally, the meeting was confirmed on the O'Reilly show by Larry
Johnson, former Deputy Director of the State Department's Office of
Counter Terrorism (May 11, 2002).
Further, US News (9/23/02)reported an Al Jazeera interview with Ramzi
Bin Al Shibh. He described an August 2001 coded chat room message among
Al Qaeda members. The content was:
The first semester starts in three weeks. Nothing
has changed. Everything is fine. ...This summer
will surely be hot...Nineteen certificates for
private study and four exams.
Did you intercept this message?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
Michael Wright
Edger answered:
In a message dated 8/27/2003 11:40:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Edger@xx.xxx (edited by author)
writes:
Hello Mr. Wright:
I replied to Edger and said we were not acquainted
with each other. Then I heard nothing more from Edger.
By Michael Wright Michael Wright Journal- Sunday August 31
We can engage in informed speculation about why Edger wouldn't answer the questions. To analyze this, we must ask: from which answers would Edger have something to lose? Either "yes" or "no" answers would have made him look less than admirable. Answers of "no" would have been admitting to failure, but he would have been in no danger from this. The Norman Transcript (2/12/2002) has already reported his public speech in which he admitted that intelligence officers "had no idea" that Al Qaeda members would be crashing aircraft into buildings. "In that case, we failed," he said.
Further, Edger is retired now. He is not an ambitious young man out to establish his reputation so that he can climb the ladder of success. He had nothing to lose from answering "no" to the questions, but he chose not to answer.
Are we justified in having a strong suspiction that the true answers are "yes"? In that event, then Edger knew three weeks in advance of the 9/11 attack that it was under way, and did nothing to obstruct it. Is Edger a criminal who deserves to be indicted for treason? Were his associates David Boren and George Tenet his accomplices? Readers are invited to view the evidence and arguments at my journal and decide.
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